Mid North Coast Pioneers - Newcastle to Lismore and beyond

Caroline Sarah NOBBSAge: 6918541923

Name
Caroline Sarah NOBBS
Given names
Caroline Sarah
Surname
NOBBS
Married name
Caroline Sarah DORRSTEIN
Married name
Caroline Sarah BRENNAN
Birth 1854 32 34
Citation details: V18541192 37A/1854 NOBBS CAROLINE S JOSEPH ANN
Note: The email from Gail Knight gives her birth year as 1851.
Birth of a sisterEmma NOBBS
about 1856 (Age 2)
Citation details: V18568622 121C/1856 NOBBS EMMA JOSEPH ANN
Birth of a sisterEliza Louisa NOBBS
about 1861 (Age 7)
Citation details: 2527/1861 NOBBS ELIZA L JOSEPH ANN NEWTOWN
Marriage of a siblingDavid BUSHMary J NOBBSView this family
about 1865 (Age 11)
Citation details: 1305/1865 BUSH DAVID NOBBS MARY J ST GEORGE
Death of a paternal grandmotherMary BOSWELL
November 7, 1865 (Age 11)
Address: Horden Street
Publication: Barry Wentworth FULLAGAR
Publication: Sydney, NSW, Australia. Fairfax Ltd.
Citation details: 8 November 1865
Text:

DEATHS. On the 7th instant, at her residence, Hordern-street, Newtown, Mary Nobbs, relict of the late John Nobbs, of George-street, Sydney, in her 67th year.

Marriage of a siblingWilliam John BULLIMANElizabeth Susan NOBBSView this family
about 1868 (Age 14)

Citation details: December 2009
Text:

Thanks Stuart,

I would be interested in knowing what your branch is - just for the sake of completeness. I have a fair bit of info on Joseph Nobbs as there has been a document published on the Nobbs family history and there was a family reunion apparently in 1982, which was before I had any interest. Do you have the history document? I have also been in contact with the other family member who has claimed the convict - their branch is in fact pretty close to us and they also live in Canberra.

My husband is a ggggg Grandson and the branch is:

Joseph Nobbs b Eversham 1754 d Sydney 1844 m Sarah Lanston | John Nobbs b Eversham 1794 d Sydney 1840 m Mary Boswell | Joseph Nobbs b Evesham 1822 d Sydney 1880 m Ann E Pasfield | Elizabeth Susan Nobbs b Sydney 1848 d Sydney 1917 m William John Bulliman | William Joseph Bulliman b Sydney 1872 d Sydney 1949 m Elizabeth Watts | Percival Joseph Bulliman b Sydney 1904 m Lordia Selina Waples | Florence Mabel Bulliman m Patrick Mannix Toohey | Graham Mannix Toohey

Cheers, Barb Toohey

Citation details: 1407/1868 BULLIMAN WILLIAM JOHN NOBBS ELIZABETH T ST GEORGE
Quality of data: secondary evidence
MarriageJohn Nicholas “Nicholas” DORRSTEINView this family
December 24, 1869 (Age 15)
Address: 47 Burton Street (Suburb unknown)
Citation details: 1244/1869 DORRSTEIN JOHN N NOBBS CAROLINE S SYDNEY
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Citation details: Email
Citation details: 9 December 2009
Text:

Thank you for your reply Stuart.

I have a pretty complete record of the OZ Dorrstein/ Dostine families, if anyone wants any further information.

John Nicholas Dorrstein the original arrived in Australia, from Frankfurt am Main , on 'the Helene' out of Hamburg on 16th October 1852 . Birth circa 1834, death 18 December 1890 at District Hospital, Parramatta. He married 24th Dec 1869 Caroline Sarah Nobbs, at 47 Burton Street, Sydney.

Their eldest son Alfred Ernest born 31st August 1870, married Ellen Weatherall 1 March 1890 in Kunopia

His grandson John Nicholas, son of Alfred, died 3 Sept 1908 at Mungindi, and is buried in Mungindi cemetery. District of registration being Moree.

Best Wishes, Elma

Shared note:

47 BURTON STREET, SYDNEY

I have been contacted by a number of people querying the subject marriage address in old marriage records. From a very brief and superficial research into this, I will make the following comments.

St. Luke's Anglican Church in Burton Street, Concord, was consecrated in May 1861, with the foundation stone having been laid in October 1859. Additions were made in 1867 and 1869.

I am not aware of the current street address of this church, but no doubt street numbers have changed since the Church was built.

Clearly this church would have been a relatively long way from the centre of Sydney in the mid to late 1800's. Around these times it was known as the "Free Church of England". Perhaps this was a reason for people from outside the district to be married there.

May be there was also a Burton Street in Sydney around those times, but in my quick research, I could not find one.

My parents were married at St. Luke's, Concord, in 1935.

Stuart Gregory

Birth of a son
#1
Alfred Ernest DORRSTEIN
August 31, 1870 (Age 16)

Citation details: 9 December 2009
Text:

Thank you for your reply Stuart.

I have a pretty complete record of the OZ Dorrstein/ Dostine families, if anyone wants any further information.

John Nicholas Dorrstein the original arrived in Australia, from Frankfurt am Main , on 'the Helene' out of Hamburg on 16th October 1852 . Birth circa 1834, death 18 December 1890 at District Hospital, Parramatta. He married 24th Dec 1869 Caroline Sarah Nobbs, at 47 Burton Street, Sydney.

Their eldest son Alfred Ernest born 31st August 1870, married Ellen Weatherall 1 March 1890 in Kunopia

His grandson John Nicholas, son of Alfred, died 3 Sept 1908 at Mungindi, and is buried in Mungindi cemetery. District of registration being Moree.

Best Wishes, Elma

Birth of a daughter
#2
Alice Maud M DOSTINE
about 1874 (Age 20)
Citation details: 5534/1874 DOSTINE ALICE MAUD M JOHN NICHOLAS CAROLINE SARAH ST GEORGE
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Marriage of a siblingWilliam J NOBBSCatherine LEEView this family
about 1874 (Age 20)
Citation details: 1319/1874 NOBBS WILLIAM LEE CATHERINE NEWTOWN
Marriage of a siblingBenjamin BUSHEliza Louisa NOBBSView this family
about 1875 (Age 21)
Citation details: 1413/1875 BUSH BENJAMIN NOBBS ELIZA LOUISA NEWTOWN
Text:

There is also this reference:

1415/1875 BUSH BENJAMIN NOBBS ELIZA LOUISA NEWTOWN

Death of a sisterMary J NOBBS
about 1875 (Age 21)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 3292/1875 BUSH MARY J JOSEPH ANN NEWTOWN
Death of a motherAnn Elizabeth “Annie” PASSFIELD
November 8, 1875 (Age 21)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 3353/1875 NOBBS ANNIE E SAMUEL JANE NEWTOWN
Text:

There is also this reference:

4227/1875 NOBBS ANNIE E SAMUEL JANE ST GEORGE

Birth of a son
#3
Joseph Henry Nicholas DOSTINE
1876 (Age 22)
Citation details: 6163/1877 DORRESTEIN JOSEPH H N JOHN N CAROLINE S ST GEORGE
Death of a daughterAlice Maud M DOSTINE
about 1876 (Age 22)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 3960/1876 DORRSTEIN ALICE M M NICHOLAS CAROLINE ST GEORGE
Birth of a daughter
#4
Ann E DORRSTEIN
about 1878 (Age 24)
Citation details: 6832/1878 DORRESTINE ANN E JOHN N CAROLINE S ST GEORGE
Death of a brotherJohn T NOBBS
about 1880 (Age 26)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 4681/1880 NOBBS JOHN JOSEPH ANN ST GEORGE
Death of a fatherJoseph NOBBS
March 15, 1880 (Age 26)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 4651/1880 NOBBS JOSEPH JOHN MARY ST GEORGE
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Birth of a son
#5
Thomas Henry DOSTINE
about 1886 (Age 32)
Citation details: 6210/1886 DOSTINE THOMAS H NICHOLS CAROLINE S PETERSHAM
Birth of a son
#6
Ernest W DOSTINE
about 1888 (Age 34)
Citation details: 6996/1888 DOSTINE ERNEST W JOHN N CAROLINE S MARRICKVILLE
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Death of a sonThomas Henry DOSTINE
about 1889 (Age 35)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 3344/1889 DOSTINE THOMAS H JOHN N CAROLINE S MARRICKVILLE
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Marriage of a childAlfred Ernest DORRSTEINEllen WEATHERALLView this family
March 1, 1890 (Age 36)
Address: Kunopia
Citation details: 4957/1890 DORRSTEIN ALFRED E WEATHERALL ELLEN MOREE
Citation details: 9 December 2009
Text:

Thank you for your reply Stuart.

I have a pretty complete record of the OZ Dorrstein/ Dostine families, if anyone wants any further information.

John Nicholas Dorrstein the original arrived in Australia, from Frankfurt am Main , on 'the Helene' out of Hamburg on 16th October 1852 . Birth circa 1834, death 18 December 1890 at District Hospital, Parramatta. He married 24th Dec 1869 Caroline Sarah Nobbs, at 47 Burton Street, Sydney.

Their eldest son Alfred Ernest born 31st August 1870, married Ellen Weatherall 1 March 1890 in Kunopia

His grandson John Nicholas, son of Alfred, died 3 Sept 1908 at Mungindi, and is buried in Mungindi cemetery. District of registration being Moree.

Best Wishes, Elma

Death of a husbandJohn Nicholas “Nicholas” DORRSTEIN
December 18, 1890 (Age 36)
Address: District Hospital
Citation details: 9 December 2009
Text:

Thank you for your reply Stuart.

I have a pretty complete record of the OZ Dorrstein/ Dostine families, if anyone wants any further information.

John Nicholas Dorrstein the original arrived in Australia, from Frankfurt am Main , on 'the Helene' out of Hamburg on 16th October 1852 . Birth circa 1834, death 18 December 1890 at District Hospital, Parramatta. He married 24th Dec 1869 Caroline Sarah Nobbs, at 47 Burton Street, Sydney.

Their eldest son Alfred Ernest born 31st August 1870, married Ellen Weatherall 1 March 1890 in Kunopia

His grandson John Nicholas, son of Alfred, died 3 Sept 1908 at Mungindi, and is buried in Mungindi cemetery. District of registration being Moree.

Best Wishes, Elma

Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 10710/1890 DOSTINE NICHOLAS UNKNOWN UNKNOWN PARRAMATTA
MarriageThomas H BRENNANView this family
about 1891 (Age 37)
Citation details: 5218/1891 BRENNAN THOMAS H DOSTINE CAROLINE S MARRICKVILLE
Birth of a grandson
#1
John Nicholas DORRSTEIN
about 1891 (Age 37)
Citation details: 22523/1891 DORRSTINE JOHN N ALFRED E ELLEN MOREE
Birth of a granddaughter
#2
Mabel M DORRSTEIN
about 1892 (Age 38)
Citation details: 23018/1892 DORRSTEIN MABEL M ALFRED E ELLEN MOREE
Death of a granddaughterMabel M DORRSTEIN
about 1901 (Age 47)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 14333/1901 DORRSTEIN MABEL M ALFRED E ELLEN MOREE
Birth of a grandson
#3
Alfred E DORRSTEIN
about 1902 (Age 48)
Citation details: 33547/1902 DORRSTEIN ALFRED E ALFRED E ELLEN MOREE
Marriage of a childJoseph Henry Nicholas DOSTINEMary Ann FORBESView this family
1903 (Age 49)
Citation details: FORBES MARY ANN Female DOSTINE JOSEPH HENRY Male MIDLAND JUNCTION 1919 1903
Death of a grandsonAlfred E DORRSTEIN
about 1903 (Age 49)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 2528/1903 DORRSTEIN ALFRED E ALFRED E ELLEN MOREE
Birth of a granddaughter
#4
Ivy L DORRSTEIN
about 1904 (Age 50)
Citation details: 14168/1904 DORRSTEIN IVY L ALFRED E ELLEN MOREE
Death of a grandsonJohn Nicholas DORRSTEIN
September 3, 1908 (Age 54)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 10287/1908 DORRSTEIN JOHN N ALFRED ELLEN MOREE
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Citation details: 9 December 2009
Text:

Thank you for your reply Stuart.

I have a pretty complete record of the OZ Dorrstein/ Dostine families, if anyone wants any further information.

John Nicholas Dorrstein the original arrived in Australia, from Frankfurt am Main , on 'the Helene' out of Hamburg on 16th October 1852 . Birth circa 1834, death 18 December 1890 at District Hospital, Parramatta. He married 24th Dec 1869 Caroline Sarah Nobbs, at 47 Burton Street, Sydney.

Their eldest son Alfred Ernest born 31st August 1870, married Ellen Weatherall 1 March 1890 in Kunopia

His grandson John Nicholas, son of Alfred, died 3 Sept 1908 at Mungindi, and is buried in Mungindi cemetery. District of registration being Moree.

Best Wishes, Elma

Death of a sonAlfred Ernest DORRSTEIN
about 1912 (Age 58)
Address: Possibly in the Charleville area
Citation details: 1912/805 Alfred Ernest Dorstein John Nicholson Dorstein Caroline Sarah Nobbs
Death of a sisterEliza Louisa NOBBS
about 1914 (Age 60)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 7474/1914 BUSH ELIZA L JOSEPH ANN CANTERBURY
Death of a sisterElizabeth Susan NOBBS
about 1917 (Age 63)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 15789/1917 BULLIMAN ELIZABETH S JOSEPH ANN MARRICKVILLE
Death about 1923 (Age 69)
Citation details: Email
Quality of data: questionable evidence
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 11769/1923 BRENNAN CAROLINE S JOSEPH ANN BURWOOD
Family with parents - View this family
father
mother
Marriage: January 25, 1841Parramatta, , New South Wales, Australia
11 months
elder brother
John T NOBBS
Birth: about 1841 19 21New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1880St. George, , New South Wales, Australia
4 years
elder sister
3 years
elder sister
Mary J NOBBS
Birth: about 1846 24 26New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1875Newtown, , New South Wales, Australia
3 years
elder sister
6 years
elder brother
William J NOBBS
Birth: about 1853 31 33New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1935Murwillumbah, , New South Wales, Australia
2 years
herself
3 years
younger sister
6 years
younger sister
Eliza Louisa NOBBS
Birth: about 1861 39 41Newtown, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1914Canterbury, , New South Wales, Australia
Family with John Nicholas “Nicholas” DORRSTEIN - View this family
husband
herself
Marriage: December 24, 1869Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
8 months
son
4 years
daughter
Alice Maud M DOSTINE
Birth: about 1874 40 20Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1876St. George, , New South Wales, Australia
3 years
son
Joseph Henry Nicholas DOSTINE
Birth: 1876 42 22Cooks River, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: August 16, 1945Marrickville, , New South Wales, Australia
3 years
daughter
Family with Thomas H BRENNAN - View this family
husband
herself
Marriage: about 1891Marrickville, , New South Wales, Australia
-4 years
son
Thomas Henry DOSTINE
Birth: about 1886 32Petersham, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1889Marrickville, , New South Wales, Australia
3 years
son

BirthEmails - Gail Knight
BirthBirths registered in New South Wales.
Citation details: V18541192 37A/1854 NOBBS CAROLINE S JOSEPH ANN
MarriageD - Marriages Registered in New South Wales
Citation details: 1244/1869 DORRSTEIN JOHN N NOBBS CAROLINE S SYDNEY
Quality of data: secondary evidence
MarriageEmails - Gail Knight
Citation details: Email
MarriageEmails - Elma Dostine
Citation details: 9 December 2009
Text:

Thank you for your reply Stuart.

I have a pretty complete record of the OZ Dorrstein/ Dostine families, if anyone wants any further information.

John Nicholas Dorrstein the original arrived in Australia, from Frankfurt am Main , on 'the Helene' out of Hamburg on 16th October 1852 . Birth circa 1834, death 18 December 1890 at District Hospital, Parramatta. He married 24th Dec 1869 Caroline Sarah Nobbs, at 47 Burton Street, Sydney.

Their eldest son Alfred Ernest born 31st August 1870, married Ellen Weatherall 1 March 1890 in Kunopia

His grandson John Nicholas, son of Alfred, died 3 Sept 1908 at Mungindi, and is buried in Mungindi cemetery. District of registration being Moree.

Best Wishes, Elma

MarriageMarriages registered in New South Wales.
Citation details: 5218/1891 BRENNAN THOMAS H DOSTINE CAROLINE S MARRICKVILLE
DeathEmails - Gail Knight
Citation details: Email
Quality of data: questionable evidence
DeathDeaths Registered in New South Wales
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 11769/1923 BRENNAN CAROLINE S JOSEPH ANN BURWOOD
NoteEmails - Elma Dostine
Citation details: 10 December 2009
Text:

Hello again, I just looked at your link, and the result is:-.

Nicholas & Caroline's children were Alfred, Alice MM who died 1876, and Joseph which you have, plus there was Ann Elizabeth b 1878 under Dorrstine. # 6832 NSW

O.K. Thomas Henry 1886-1889 & Ernest W 1888-1908 were not John Nicholas Dorrstein's sons. They were Caroline's by Thomas Brennan, and known by Brennan most of their lives. Isn't family history fun?

Elma