Mid North Coast Pioneers - Newcastle to Lismore and beyond

Convict uniform as punishment

George VILEAge: 6918101879

Name
George VILE
Given names
George
Surname
VILE
Birth about 1810 24 22
Citation details: Web site update 23 Apr 2007
Quality of data: primary evidence
Citation details: Email 1 March, 2006
Text:

Stuart Gregory stuart@scss.com.au From: Jan Gregory Subject: Fwd: Gregory Photos Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:12:13 +1100

Dear Stuart, The data continues! Have you Robert's details yet? He might need a prod. What about Allan? Regards, Jan

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From: PAYNE_FAMILY Date: 1 March 2006 5:10:51 PM To: Han Gregory Subject: Gregory Photos

Hi Jan, I have attached photos of graves of William Gregory SNR and William & Ann Gregory both from Sandgate Cemetery. Photos of William & Ann Gregory and Patrick & Sarah Vial.

RE: Vial. On Patrick & Sarah wedding certif. his parents listed as George Vial & Mary Linham. Patrick born Hunter River , age 44 in 1893 = born about 1849 No record of birth of Patrick Vial/Vile on BDM. A George Vile & Mary Lynham married Newcatle Rom.Catholic Reg. 28.11.1842 Permission to Marry 1842 - Vile, George, 32, Ship-Mangles 8, Sentence 7 years, Status-ticket of leave. Lynham, Mary, 18, ship-Royal Sovereigh, Status-Free. This is all I have on the Vial's at this stage. I need to investigate further.

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Citation details: 8148/1879 VIAL GEORGE AGE 67 YEARS DIED PARRAMATTA PARRAMATTA
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Publication: Lesley Uebel, 2001, CD
Citation details: Convict Names
Text:

There appears no doubt that he was born about 1810. He was listed as being 27 years of age when he arrived on 1827 and 32 years of age when he obtained his permission to marry in 1842.

Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Death of a paternal grandmotherRebekkah EVERY
November 15, 1827 (Age 17)
Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Convicted
for housebreaking
1836 (Age 26)
Publication: Lesley Uebel, 2001, CD
Citation details: Convict Names
Text:

Sentenced to transportation for 7 years for housebreaking.

Convict July 10, 1837 (Age 27)
Citation details: Email 1 March, 2006
Text:

Dear Stuart, The data continues! Have you Robert's details yet? He might need a prod. What about Allan? Regards, Jan

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From: PAYNE_FAMILY Date: 1 March 2006 5:10:51 PM To: jancg Subject: Gregory Photos

Hi Jan, I have attached photos of graves of William Gregory SNR and William & Ann Gregory both from Sandgate Cemetery. Photos of William & Ann Gregory and Patrick & Sarah Vial.

RE: Vial. On Patrick & Sarah wedding certif. his parents listed as George Vial & Mary Linham. Patrick born Hunter River , age 44 in 1893 = born about 1849 No record of birth of Patrick Vial/Vile on BDM. A George Vile & Mary Lynham married Newcatle Rom.Catholic Reg. 28.11.1842 Permission to Marry 1842 - Vile, George, 32, Ship-Mangles 8, Sentence 7 years, Status-ticket of leave. Lynham, Mary, 18, ship-Royal Sovereigh, Status-Free. This is all I have on the Vial's at this stage. I need to investigate further.

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Publication: Lesley Uebel, 2001, CD
Citation details: Convict Names
Note: On the ship "Mangles" (8), sentenced to 7 years. The Mangles was 594 tons and departed from Portsmouth under the command of Captain William Carr. The surgeon was F. Logan.
Ticket of Leave 1841 (Age 31)
Text:

The following is the Index entry from the NSW State Records:

VILE George Ship Mangles 1837 CF Ref43/1553 19 Sep 1843 State Record Ref No. 4/4385 Reel No. 1015 Remarks TL 41/2309

Citation details: Ticket of Leave - George Vile
Text:

Last name: Vile First name: George Ship: Mangles Year: 1837 Native place: Not Recorded Trade or calling: Not Recorded District: Newcastle Ticket no.: 41/2309 State Records shelf ref: 4/4156 State Records reel no: 942

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Note: The NSW State Records his Certificate of Freedom where in the Remarks column it has the following entry: TL 41/2309
Permission to Marry
Refused
October 11, 1842 (Age 32)
Associate: Mary LYNHAMwife
Publication: Lesley Uebel, 2001, CD
Citation details: Marriages 1810 -1851
Text:

Permission to marry Mary LYNHAM was refused by the Rev. C.V. Dowling.

Quality of data: 4
Permission to MarryMary LYNHAMView this family
granted
between October 11, 1842 and November 27, 1842 (Age 32)
Citation details: Email 1 March, 2006
Text:

Dear Stuart, The data continues! Have you Robert's details yet? He might need a prod. What about Allan? Regards, Jan

Begin forwarded message:

From: PAYNE_FAMILY Date: 1 March 2006 5:10:51 PM To: jancgr@bigpond.net.au Subject: Gregory Photos

Hi Jan, I have attached photos of graves of William Gregory SNR and William & Ann Gregory both from Sandgate Cemetery. Photos of William & Ann Gregory and Patrick & Sarah Vial.

RE: Vial. On Patrick & Sarah wedding certif. his parents listed as George Vial & Mary Linham. Patrick born Hunter River , age 44 in 1893 = born about 1849 No record of birth of Patrick Vial/Vile on BDM. A George Vile & Mary Lynham married Newcatle Rom.Catholic Reg. 28.11.1842 Permission to Marry 1842 - Vile, George, 32, Ship-Mangles 8, Sentence 7 years, Status-ticket of leave. Lynham, Mary, 18, ship-Royal Sovereigh, Status-Free. This is all I have on the Vial's at this stage. I need to investigate further.

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Publication: Lesley Uebel, 2001, CD
Citation details: Marriages 1810 - 1851
Note: Vile, George, 32, Ship "Mangles" (8), Sentence 7 years, Status - Ticket of Leave. George had a Ticket of Leave, whilst Mary was a free settler. Permission was granted by the Rev. C.V. Dowling.
MarriageMary LYNHAMView this family
November 28, 1842 (Age 32)
Citation details: V18422471 93/1842 VILE GEORGE LYNHAM MARY LL
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Note:

LL is the code for:

Roman Catholic, Newcastle, Raymond Terrace.

Citation details: Email 1 March, 2006
Text:

Dear Stuart, The data continues! Have you Robert's details yet? He might need a prod. What about Allan? Regards, Jan

Begin forwarded message:

From: PAYNE_FAMILY Date: 1 March 2006 5:10:51 PM To: jancgr@bigpond.net.au Subject: Gregory Photos

Hi Jan, I have attached photos of graves of William Gregory SNR and William & Ann Gregory both from Sandgate Cemetery. Photos of William & Ann Gregory and Patrick & Sarah Vial.

RE: Vial. On Patrick & Sarah wedding certif. his parents listed as George Vial & Mary Linham. Patrick born Hunter River , age 44 in 1893 = born about 1849 No record of birth of Patrick Vial/Vile on BDM. A George Vile & Mary Lynham married Newcatle Rom.Catholic Reg. 28.11.1842 Permission to Marry 1842 - Vile, George, 32, Ship-Mangles 8, Sentence 7 years, Status-ticket of leave. Lynham, Mary, 18, ship-Royal Sovereigh, Status-Free. This is all I have on the Vial's at this stage. I need to investigate further.

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Birth of a son
#1
John VIAL
May 10, 1843 (Age 33)

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Citation details: V1843977 121A/1843 VILLE JOHN GEORGE MARY
Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Note: Birth registered as John Ville
Certificate of Freedom
given
September 19, 1843 (Age 33)

Text:

The following is the Index entry from the NSW State Records:

VILE George Ship Mangles 1837 CF Ref 43/1553 19 Sep 1843 State Record Ref No. 4/4385 Reel No. 1015 Remarks TL 41/2309

Birth of a son
#2
Patrick George VIAL
October 31, 1844 (Age 34)
Citation details: Email 1 March, 2006
Text:

From: Jan Gregory jancgr@bigpond.net.au Subject: Fwd: Gregory Photos Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:12:13 +1100

Dear Stuart, The data continues!

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From: PAYNE_FAMILY payne_family@bigpond.com Date: 1 March 2006 5:10:51 PM To: jancgr@bigpond.net.au Subject: Gregory Photos

Hi Jan, I have attached photos of graves of William Gregory SNR and William & Ann Gregory both from Sandgate Cemetery. Photos of William & Ann Gregory and Patrick & Sarah Vial.

RE: Vial. On Patrick & Sarah wedding certif. his parents listed as George Vial & Mary Linham. Patrick born Hunter River , age 44 in 1893 = born about 1849 No record of birth of Patrick Vial/Vile on BDM. A George Vile & Mary Lynham married Newcatle Rom.Catholic Reg. 28.11.1842 Permission to Marry 1842 - Vile, George, 32, Ship-Mangles 8, Sentence 7 years, Status-ticket of leave. Lynham, Mary, 18, ship-Royal Sovereigh, Status-Free. This is all I have on the Vial's at this stage. I need to investigate further.

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Note:

Have searched the NSW BDM Birth Index and found no relevant entry. Could it be this entry:

V1844754 162A/1844 VINE PATRICK GEORGE MARY

Christening of a sonPatrick George VIAL
December 1, 1844 (Age 34)
Godfather: Patrick LYNHAMuncle
Note: Sponsors were Patrick Lynham and Mary Bowen. Patrick Lynham was Mary Lynham's brother.
Birth of a son
#3
Charles Joseph VIAL
July 13, 1846 (Age 36)
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Birth of a son
#4
George VIAL
about 1847 (Age 37)

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Note: His birth year was found by deducting his age from the death year of his Mother. It also fits in with the deaths of two other siblings named George.
Birth of a son
#5
George Martin VIAL
October 16, 1848 (Age 38)
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Death of a sonGeorge VIAL
before 1851 (Age 41)

Death of a sonGeorge Martin VIAL
before 1851 (Age 41)

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Death of a paternal grandfatherJoseph VILE
May 4, 1851 (Age 41)
Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Birth of a son
#6
George Martin VIAL
July 14, 1851 (Age 41)

Citation details: V18511109 68/1851 VIAL GEORGE M GEORGE MARY
Quality of data: questionable evidence
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Note: The Vial Family gedcom has the DOB for George as 14 October 1851.
Birth of a son
#7
Joseph Sylvester VIAL
December 10, 1853 (Age 43)

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Citation details: V1853 650 71/1853 & V1854 650 71/1854
Text:

Baptised at St James, RC, Sydney, Nsw, Australia

Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Death of a fatherJohn VILE
March 14, 1855 (Age 45)
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Birth of a son
#8
Laurence Philip VIAL
December 15, 1855 (Age 45)

Citation details: V18553860 72/1855 VIAL LAURENCE P GEORGE MARY
Quality of data: questionable evidence
Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Death of a motherMaria BESTGROOD
1857 (Age 47)
Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Birth of a son
#9
Peter Edwin VIAL
March 26, 1860 (Age 50)
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Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Birth of a son
#10
Edward VIAL
about 1860 (Age 50)

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Note: This birth date was found by deducting his age from the year of birth of Mary Ann.
Death of a sonGeorge Martin VIAL
before 1862 (Age 52)

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Birth of a daughter
#11
Mary Ann VIAL
July 29, 1862 (Age 52)
Citation details: 11203/1862 VIAL MARY A GEORGE MARY NEWCASTLE
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Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Marriage of a childJoseph Sylvester VIALElizabeth COOKView this family
November 7, 1874 (Age 64)
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Citation details: 3409/1874 VIAL JOSEPH COOK ELIZABETH LAMBTON
Marriage of a childJohn VIALMaria Theresa MAHONEYView this family
about 1876 (Age 66)
Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Citation details: 3717/1876 VIAL JOHN MAHONEY MARIA LAMBTON
Marriage of a childCharles Joseph VIALJane CLAYTONView this family
about 1876 (Age 66)
Citation details: 3734/1876 VIAL CHARLES CLAYTON JANE WALLSEND
Birth of a granddaughter
#1
Ellen Mary VIAL
about 1877 (Age 67)
Citation details: 17709/1877 VIAL ELLEN M JOHN MARIA WALLSEND
Birth of a grandson
#2
William George VIAL
September 6, 1877 (Age 67)
Citation details: 2734/1877 VIAL WILLIAM G CHARLES J JANE SYDNEY
Death of a granddaughterEllen Mary VIAL
about 1877 (Age 67)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 7605/1877 VAIL ELLEN M JOHN MARIA WALLSEND
Marriage of a childLaurence Philip VIALSusannah Mary Agnes LEONARDView this family
about 1878 (Age 68)
Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Birth of a granddaughter
#3
Theresa VIAL
about 1879 (Age 69)
Citation details: 19614/1879 VIAL THERESA JOHN MARIA WALLSEND
Birth of a grandson
#4
Charles J VIAL
about 1879 (Age 69)
Citation details: 3939/1879 VIAL CHARLES J CHARLES J JANE BALMAIN
Birth of a grandson
#5
Ernest C VIAL
about 1879 (Age 69)
Citation details: 4149/1879 VIAL ERNEST C JOSEPH ELIZABETH BALMAIN
Death September 28, 1879 (Age 69)
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 8148/1879 VIAL GEORGE AGE 67 YEARS DIED PARRAMATTA PARRAMATTA
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Citation details: Web site update 23 Apr 2007
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Burial September 29, 1879 (1 day after death)
Cemetery: St. Patrick's
Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
Family with parents - View this family
father
John VILE
Birth: about 1786 18 22Curry Mallet, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
Death: March 14, 1855Curry Mallet, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
mother
Maria BESTGROOD
Birth: November 5, 1787Curry Mallet, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
Death: 1857Curry Mallet, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
Marriage: February 16, 1808Curry Mallet, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
3 years
himself
Family with Mary LYNHAM - View this family
himself
wife
Marriage: November 28, 1842Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
5 months
son
18 months
son
20 months
son
18 months
son
21 months
son
3 years
son
2 years
son
2 years
son
4 years
son
9 months
son
3 years
daughter

BirthPayne Family - Web Page Update
Citation details: Web site update 23 Apr 2007
Quality of data: primary evidence
BirthEmails - Jan Gregory
Citation details: Email 1 March, 2006
Text:

Stuart Gregory stuart@scss.com.au From: Jan Gregory Subject: Fwd: Gregory Photos Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:12:13 +1100

Dear Stuart, The data continues! Have you Robert's details yet? He might need a prod. What about Allan? Regards, Jan

Begin forwarded message:

From: PAYNE_FAMILY Date: 1 March 2006 5:10:51 PM To: Han Gregory Subject: Gregory Photos

Hi Jan, I have attached photos of graves of William Gregory SNR and William & Ann Gregory both from Sandgate Cemetery. Photos of William & Ann Gregory and Patrick & Sarah Vial.

RE: Vial. On Patrick & Sarah wedding certif. his parents listed as George Vial & Mary Linham. Patrick born Hunter River , age 44 in 1893 = born about 1849 No record of birth of Patrick Vial/Vile on BDM. A George Vile & Mary Lynham married Newcatle Rom.Catholic Reg. 28.11.1842 Permission to Marry 1842 - Vile, George, 32, Ship-Mangles 8, Sentence 7 years, Status-ticket of leave. Lynham, Mary, 18, ship-Royal Sovereigh, Status-Free. This is all I have on the Vial's at this stage. I need to investigate further.

Quality of data: secondary evidence
BirthV - Deaths Registered in New South Wales
Citation details: 8148/1879 VIAL GEORGE AGE 67 YEARS DIED PARRAMATTA PARRAMATTA
Quality of data: secondary evidence
BirthThe Port Jackson Convicts Anthology
Publication: Lesley Uebel, 2001, CD
Citation details: Convict Names
Text:

There appears no doubt that he was born about 1810. He was listed as being 27 years of age when he arrived on 1827 and 32 years of age when he obtained his permission to marry in 1842.

BirthWeb Site - ancestry.com.au
Citation details: Stewart Family Tree
ConvictedThe Port Jackson Convicts Anthology
Publication: Lesley Uebel, 2001, CD
Citation details: Convict Names
Text:

Sentenced to transportation for 7 years for housebreaking.

ConvictEmails - Jan Gregory
Citation details: Email 1 March, 2006
Text:

Dear Stuart, The data continues! Have you Robert's details yet? He might need a prod. What about Allan? Regards, Jan

Begin forwarded message:

From: PAYNE_FAMILY Date: 1 March 2006 5:10:51 PM To: jancg Subject: Gregory Photos

Hi Jan, I have attached photos of graves of William Gregory SNR and William & Ann Gregory both from Sandgate Cemetery. Photos of William & Ann Gregory and Patrick & Sarah Vial.

RE: Vial. On Patrick & Sarah wedding certif. his parents listed as George Vial & Mary Linham. Patrick born Hunter River , age 44 in 1893 = born about 1849 No record of birth of Patrick Vial/Vile on BDM. A George Vile & Mary Lynham married Newcatle Rom.Catholic Reg. 28.11.1842 Permission to Marry 1842 - Vile, George, 32, Ship-Mangles 8, Sentence 7 years, Status-ticket of leave. Lynham, Mary, 18, ship-Royal Sovereigh, Status-Free. This is all I have on the Vial's at this stage. I need to investigate further.

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Ticket of LeaveState Records Authority of New South Wales
Text:

The following is the Index entry from the NSW State Records:

VILE George Ship Mangles 1837 CF Ref43/1553 19 Sep 1843 State Record Ref No. 4/4385 Reel No. 1015 Remarks TL 41/2309

Permission to MarryThe Port Jackson Convicts Anthology
Publication: Lesley Uebel, 2001, CD
Citation details: Marriages 1810 -1851
Text:

Permission to marry Mary LYNHAM was refused by the Rev. C.V. Dowling.

Quality of data: 4
Permission to MarryEmails - Jan Gregory
Citation details: Email 1 March, 2006
Text:

Dear Stuart, The data continues! Have you Robert's details yet? He might need a prod. What about Allan? Regards, Jan

Begin forwarded message:

From: PAYNE_FAMILY Date: 1 March 2006 5:10:51 PM To: jancgr@bigpond.net.au Subject: Gregory Photos

Hi Jan, I have attached photos of graves of William Gregory SNR and William & Ann Gregory both from Sandgate Cemetery. Photos of William & Ann Gregory and Patrick & Sarah Vial.

RE: Vial. On Patrick & Sarah wedding certif. his parents listed as George Vial & Mary Linham. Patrick born Hunter River , age 44 in 1893 = born about 1849 No record of birth of Patrick Vial/Vile on BDM. A George Vile & Mary Lynham married Newcatle Rom.Catholic Reg. 28.11.1842 Permission to Marry 1842 - Vile, George, 32, Ship-Mangles 8, Sentence 7 years, Status-ticket of leave. Lynham, Mary, 18, ship-Royal Sovereigh, Status-Free. This is all I have on the Vial's at this stage. I need to investigate further.

Quality of data: secondary evidence
MarriageMarriages registered in New South Wales.
Citation details: V18422471 93/1842 VILE GEORGE LYNHAM MARY LL
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Note:

LL is the code for:

Roman Catholic, Newcastle, Raymond Terrace.

MarriageEmails - Jan Gregory
Citation details: Email 1 March, 2006
Text:

Dear Stuart, The data continues! Have you Robert's details yet? He might need a prod. What about Allan? Regards, Jan

Begin forwarded message:

From: PAYNE_FAMILY Date: 1 March 2006 5:10:51 PM To: jancgr@bigpond.net.au Subject: Gregory Photos

Hi Jan, I have attached photos of graves of William Gregory SNR and William & Ann Gregory both from Sandgate Cemetery. Photos of William & Ann Gregory and Patrick & Sarah Vial.

RE: Vial. On Patrick & Sarah wedding certif. his parents listed as George Vial & Mary Linham. Patrick born Hunter River , age 44 in 1893 = born about 1849 No record of birth of Patrick Vial/Vile on BDM. A George Vile & Mary Lynham married Newcatle Rom.Catholic Reg. 28.11.1842 Permission to Marry 1842 - Vile, George, 32, Ship-Mangles 8, Sentence 7 years, Status-ticket of leave. Lynham, Mary, 18, ship-Royal Sovereigh, Status-Free. This is all I have on the Vial's at this stage. I need to investigate further.

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Certificate of FreedomState Records Authority of New South Wales
Text:

The following is the Index entry from the NSW State Records:

VILE George Ship Mangles 1837 CF Ref 43/1553 19 Sep 1843 State Record Ref No. 4/4385 Reel No. 1015 Remarks TL 41/2309

DeathDeaths Registered in New South Wales
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 8148/1879 VIAL GEORGE AGE 67 YEARS DIED PARRAMATTA PARRAMATTA
Quality of data: secondary evidence
DeathPayne Family - Web Page Update
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BurialWeb Site - ancestry.com.au
Citation details: Stewart Family Tree