Mid North Coast Pioneers - Newcastle to Lismore and beyond

James PIDDINGAge: 5717701827

Name
James PIDDING
Given names
James
Surname
PIDDING
Birth 1770
Citation details: 4 August 2008
Text:

I'm not sure what my connection to your family might be -- George Raymond Pidding's younger brother Charles James (1826-1900) was my g2 grandfather. I gather from your site that George Raymond is a peripheral connection in your family, since you've got him a little mixed up. He was born in 1824; it was his father (also George Raymond) who was born in 1800. George Raymond the elder arr 1838, d. 1853. The son was probably born in London, Charles James in Scotland. The boys came out with their mother Marianne in 1839-40, after their father had been transported for forging stamps. George Raymond jr became a cordial maker in Maitland and then in Sydney (a trade that went back at least to his grandfather James (1770-1827), a surgeon who sold potions for a while before running a lottery house at Cornhill.) George Raymond jr. d. Glebe Jan 30 1893, aged about 68. Plenty more if you're interested. I'd also be very keen to know where your April 21 birthdate for George Raymond comes from. I have no record of his birth.

Birth of a son
#1
Henry James PIDDING
1797 (Age 27)

Citation details: 5 August 2008
Text:

There are in fact five George Raymond Piddings in all, but only one Pidding convict.

Briefly, the line runs:

George Raymond (1800-53) m. Marianne Righton (d. 1872). She was the widow of Basil Righton of the East India Co. I don't know her maiden name; she was apparently French. George R.'s ten siblings included the painter Henry James P (1797-1864); the East India Co. captain and teadealer John Rhodes Pidding (1803-50) who sold his tea as "Captain Pidding"; the inventor William Pidding; and a surgeon, Thomas Pidding, who came to NSW free in 1829 and died there in 1840.

George and Marianne had two sons, as you know.

  1. George Raymond (1824-93) married twice: in 1849 to Miriam Burgess (d. 1863) and in 1864 to Sarah Ann Davies (d.1824). Issue: With Miriam Burgess:
  2. George Raymond (1850-1902) Son George F.C. (George IV) b/d 1883.
  3. Henry Augustus (1852-??)
  4. Sarah Miriam (Young) (1854-1936)
  5. Louisa Caroline (Eldridge) (1857-1921)
  6. Eliza (Rutherford) (1860-1953)
  7. Charles (1863-1939)
  8. Alfred (twin - b/d 1863)

With Sarah Ann Davies: 8. William Heath (1865-1898) 9. Frederick Ord (1866-1941) 10. Herbert James (1868-1942) (His third son was George Raymond L. [1893-1965]) 11. Walter Burgess (1870-75) 12. Ida Eveline Maud (1873-74) 13. Percy Horatio (1877-1927) 14. Cecil Raymond (1881-1927) 15. Edis Byron (1884-1945)

  1. Charles James (1826-1900) married Isabella Dodds (1829-1904) at Port Macquarie, 1848. She gave birth to ten children, only five of which survived:
  2. George Raymond (1848-49)
  3. Charles James (1850-53)
  4. Marianne (1851-55)
  5. Isabella (Manning) (1853-1931) My great grandmother.
  6. Margaret Mary (1858-59)
  7. Elizabeth Louise (Kearton) (1860-
  8. Louisa (1862-67)
  9. Margaret (Kearton) (1865-1904)
  10. Charles (1867-1945)
  11. Douglas Francis (1870-1912). Doug's grandson, Noel Pidding, played Rugby League for Australia.
Birth of a son
#2
George Raymond PIDDING
21 April 1800 (Age 30)

Citation details: 5 August 2008
Text:

There are in fact five George Raymond Piddings in all, but only one Pidding convict.

Briefly, the line runs:

George Raymond (1800-53) m. Marianne Righton (d. 1872). She was the widow of Basil Righton of the East India Co. I don't know her maiden name; she was apparently French. George R.'s ten siblings included the painter Henry James P (1797-1864); the East India Co. captain and teadealer John Rhodes Pidding (1803-50) who sold his tea as "Captain Pidding"; the inventor William Pidding; and a surgeon, Thomas Pidding, who came to NSW free in 1829 and died there in 1840.

George and Marianne had two sons, as you know.

  1. George Raymond (1824-93) married twice: in 1849 to Miriam Burgess (d. 1863) and in 1864 to Sarah Ann Davies (d.1824). Issue: With Miriam Burgess:
  2. George Raymond (1850-1902) Son George F.C. (George IV) b/d 1883.
  3. Henry Augustus (1852-??)
  4. Sarah Miriam (Young) (1854-1936)
  5. Louisa Caroline (Eldridge) (1857-1921)
  6. Eliza (Rutherford) (1860-1953)
  7. Charles (1863-1939)
  8. Alfred (twin - b/d 1863)

With Sarah Ann Davies: 8. William Heath (1865-1898) 9. Frederick Ord (1866-1941) 10. Herbert James (1868-1942) (His third son was George Raymond L. [1893-1965]) 11. Walter Burgess (1870-75) 12. Ida Eveline Maud (1873-74) 13. Percy Horatio (1877-1927) 14. Cecil Raymond (1881-1927) 15. Edis Byron (1884-1945)

  1. Charles James (1826-1900) married Isabella Dodds (1829-1904) at Port Macquarie, 1848. She gave birth to ten children, only five of which survived:
  2. George Raymond (1848-49)
  3. Charles James (1850-53)
  4. Marianne (1851-55)
  5. Isabella (Manning) (1853-1931) My great grandmother.
  6. Margaret Mary (1858-59)
  7. Elizabeth Louise (Kearton) (1860-
  8. Louisa (1862-67)
  9. Margaret (Kearton) (1865-1904)
  10. Charles (1867-1945)
  11. Douglas Francis (1870-1912). Doug's grandson, Noel Pidding, played Rugby League for Australia.
Publication: Copyright (c) 1980, 2002
Citation details: Batch C035244 Call No. 0580907 Print Out Call No. 6903614
Note: This date agrees with his age being 36 when he arrived in Australia and his age of 56 in the NSW Death Index entry.
Birth of a son
#3
William PIDDING
yes

Christening of a sonGeorge Raymond PIDDING
29 May 1800 (Age 30)
Address: Saint Mary St. Marylebone Road
Publication: Copyright (c) 1980, 2002
Citation details: Batch C035244 Call No. 0580907 Print Out Call No. 6903614
Birth of a son
#4
John Rhodes PIDDING
1803 (Age 33)

Citation details: 5 August 2008
Text:

There are in fact five George Raymond Piddings in all, but only one Pidding convict.

Briefly, the line runs:

George Raymond (1800-53) m. Marianne Righton (d. 1872). She was the widow of Basil Righton of the East India Co. I don't know her maiden name; she was apparently French. George R.'s ten siblings included the painter Henry James P (1797-1864); the East India Co. captain and teadealer John Rhodes Pidding (1803-50) who sold his tea as "Captain Pidding"; the inventor William Pidding; and a surgeon, Thomas Pidding, who came to NSW free in 1829 and died there in 1840.

George and Marianne had two sons, as you know.

  1. George Raymond (1824-93) married twice: in 1849 to Miriam Burgess (d. 1863) and in 1864 to Sarah Ann Davies (d.1824). Issue: With Miriam Burgess:
  2. George Raymond (1850-1902) Son George F.C. (George IV) b/d 1883.
  3. Henry Augustus (1852-??)
  4. Sarah Miriam (Young) (1854-1936)
  5. Louisa Caroline (Eldridge) (1857-1921)
  6. Eliza (Rutherford) (1860-1953)
  7. Charles (1863-1939)
  8. Alfred (twin - b/d 1863)

With Sarah Ann Davies: 8. William Heath (1865-1898) 9. Frederick Ord (1866-1941) 10. Herbert James (1868-1942) (His third son was George Raymond L. [1893-1965]) 11. Walter Burgess (1870-75) 12. Ida Eveline Maud (1873-74) 13. Percy Horatio (1877-1927) 14. Cecil Raymond (1881-1927) 15. Edis Byron (1884-1945)

  1. Charles James (1826-1900) married Isabella Dodds (1829-1904) at Port Macquarie, 1848. She gave birth to ten children, only five of which survived:
  2. George Raymond (1848-49)
  3. Charles James (1850-53)
  4. Marianne (1851-55)
  5. Isabella (Manning) (1853-1931) My great grandmother.
  6. Margaret Mary (1858-59)
  7. Elizabeth Louise (Kearton) (1860-
  8. Louisa (1862-67)
  9. Margaret (Kearton) (1865-1904)
  10. Charles (1867-1945)
  11. Douglas Francis (1870-1912). Doug's grandson, Noel Pidding, played Rugby League for Australia.
Birth of a son
#5
Thomas PIDDING
about 1810 (Age 40)

Note: This birth date deduced from Thomas being 30 years of age at his death in 1840.
Birth of a grandson
#1
George Raymond PIDDING
1824 (Age 54)

Citation details: 5 August 2008
Text:

There are in fact five George Raymond Piddings in all, but only one Pidding convict.

Briefly, the line runs:

George Raymond (1800-53) m. Marianne Righton (d. 1872). She was the widow of Basil Righton of the East India Co. I don't know her maiden name; she was apparently French. George R.'s ten siblings included the painter Henry James P (1797-1864); the East India Co. captain and teadealer John Rhodes Pidding (1803-50) who sold his tea as "Captain Pidding"; the inventor William Pidding; and a surgeon, Thomas Pidding, who came to NSW free in 1829 and died there in 1840.

George and Marianne had two sons, as you know.

  1. George Raymond (1824-93) married twice: in 1849 to Miriam Burgess (d. 1863) and in 1864 to Sarah Ann Davies (d.1824). Issue: With Miriam Burgess:
  2. George Raymond (1850-1902) Son George F.C. (George IV) b/d 1883.
  3. Henry Augustus (1852-??)
  4. Sarah Miriam (Young) (1854-1936)
  5. Louisa Caroline (Eldridge) (1857-1921)
  6. Eliza (Rutherford) (1860-1953)
  7. Charles (1863-1939)
  8. Alfred (twin - b/d 1863)

With Sarah Ann Davies: 8. William Heath (1865-1898) 9. Frederick Ord (1866-1941) 10. Herbert James (1868-1942) (His third son was George Raymond L. [1893-1965]) 11. Walter Burgess (1870-75) 12. Ida Eveline Maud (1873-74) 13. Percy Horatio (1877-1927) 14. Cecil Raymond (1881-1927) 15. Edis Byron (1884-1945)

  1. Charles James (1826-1900) married Isabella Dodds (1829-1904) at Port Macquarie, 1848. She gave birth to ten children, only five of which survived:
  2. George Raymond (1848-49)
  3. Charles James (1850-53)
  4. Marianne (1851-55)
  5. Isabella (Manning) (1853-1931) My great grandmother.
  6. Margaret Mary (1858-59)
  7. Elizabeth Louise (Kearton) (1860-
  8. Louisa (1862-67)
  9. Margaret (Kearton) (1865-1904)
  10. Charles (1867-1945)
  11. Douglas Francis (1870-1912). Doug's grandson, Noel Pidding, played Rugby League for Australia.
Birth of a grandson
#2
Charles James PIDDING
about 1826 (Age 56)
Citation details: 5 August 2008
Text:

There are in fact five George Raymond Piddings in all, but only one Pidding convict.

Briefly, the line runs:

George Raymond (1800-53) m. Marianne Righton (d. 1872). She was the widow of Basil Righton of the East India Co. I don't know her maiden name; she was apparently French. George R.'s ten siblings included the painter Henry James P (1797-1864); the East India Co. captain and teadealer John Rhodes Pidding (1803-50) who sold his tea as "Captain Pidding"; the inventor William Pidding; and a surgeon, Thomas Pidding, who came to NSW free in 1829 and died there in 1840.

George and Marianne had two sons, as you know.

  1. George Raymond (1824-93) married twice: in 1849 to Miriam Burgess (d. 1863) and in 1864 to Sarah Ann Davies (d.1824). Issue: With Miriam Burgess:
  2. George Raymond (1850-1902) Son George F.C. (George IV) b/d 1883.
  3. Henry Augustus (1852-??)
  4. Sarah Miriam (Young) (1854-1936)
  5. Louisa Caroline (Eldridge) (1857-1921)
  6. Eliza (Rutherford) (1860-1953)
  7. Charles (1863-1939)
  8. Alfred (twin - b/d 1863)

With Sarah Ann Davies: 8. William Heath (1865-1898) 9. Frederick Ord (1866-1941) 10. Herbert James (1868-1942) (His third son was George Raymond L. [1893-1965]) 11. Walter Burgess (1870-75) 12. Ida Eveline Maud (1873-74) 13. Percy Horatio (1877-1927) 14. Cecil Raymond (1881-1927) 15. Edis Byron (1884-1945)

  1. Charles James (1826-1900) married Isabella Dodds (1829-1904) at Port Macquarie, 1848. She gave birth to ten children, only five of which survived:
  2. George Raymond (1848-49)
  3. Charles James (1850-53)
  4. Marianne (1851-55)
  5. Isabella (Manning) (1853-1931) My great grandmother.
  6. Margaret Mary (1858-59)
  7. Elizabeth Louise (Kearton) (1860-
  8. Louisa (1862-67)
  9. Margaret (Kearton) (1865-1904)
  10. Charles (1867-1945)
  11. Douglas Francis (1870-1912). Doug's grandson, Noel Pidding, played Rugby League for Australia.
Citation details: 4 August 2008
Text:

I'm not sure what my connection to your family might be -- George Raymond Pidding's younger brother Charles James (1826-1900) was my g2 grandfather. I gather from your site that George Raymond is a peripheral connection in your family, since you've got him a little mixed up. He was born in 1824; it was his father (also George Raymond) who was born in 1800. George Raymond the elder arr 1838, d. 1853. The son was probably born in London, Charles James in Scotland. The boys came out with their mother Marianne in 1839-40, after their father had been transported for forging stamps. George Raymond jr became a cordial maker in Maitland and then in Sydney (a trade that went back at least to his grandfather James (1770-1827), a surgeon who sold potions for a while before running a lottery house at Cornhill.) George Raymond jr. d. Glebe Jan 30 1893, aged about 68. Plenty more if you're interested. I'd also be very keen to know where your April 21 birthdate for George Raymond comes from. I have no record of his birth.

Death 1827 (Age 57)
Citation details: 4 August 2008
Text:

I'm not sure what my connection to your family might be -- George Raymond Pidding's younger brother Charles James (1826-1900) was my g2 grandfather. I gather from your site that George Raymond is a peripheral connection in your family, since you've got him a little mixed up. He was born in 1824; it was his father (also George Raymond) who was born in 1800. George Raymond the elder arr 1838, d. 1853. The son was probably born in London, Charles James in Scotland. The boys came out with their mother Marianne in 1839-40, after their father had been transported for forging stamps. George Raymond jr became a cordial maker in Maitland and then in Sydney (a trade that went back at least to his grandfather James (1770-1827), a surgeon who sold potions for a while before running a lottery house at Cornhill.) George Raymond jr. d. Glebe Jan 30 1893, aged about 68. Plenty more if you're interested. I'd also be very keen to know where your April 21 birthdate for George Raymond comes from. I have no record of his birth.

BirthEmails - Greg Manning
Citation details: 4 August 2008
Text:

I'm not sure what my connection to your family might be -- George Raymond Pidding's younger brother Charles James (1826-1900) was my g2 grandfather. I gather from your site that George Raymond is a peripheral connection in your family, since you've got him a little mixed up. He was born in 1824; it was his father (also George Raymond) who was born in 1800. George Raymond the elder arr 1838, d. 1853. The son was probably born in London, Charles James in Scotland. The boys came out with their mother Marianne in 1839-40, after their father had been transported for forging stamps. George Raymond jr became a cordial maker in Maitland and then in Sydney (a trade that went back at least to his grandfather James (1770-1827), a surgeon who sold potions for a while before running a lottery house at Cornhill.) George Raymond jr. d. Glebe Jan 30 1893, aged about 68. Plenty more if you're interested. I'd also be very keen to know where your April 21 birthdate for George Raymond comes from. I have no record of his birth.

DeathEmails - Greg Manning
Citation details: 4 August 2008
Text:

I'm not sure what my connection to your family might be -- George Raymond Pidding's younger brother Charles James (1826-1900) was my g2 grandfather. I gather from your site that George Raymond is a peripheral connection in your family, since you've got him a little mixed up. He was born in 1824; it was his father (also George Raymond) who was born in 1800. George Raymond the elder arr 1838, d. 1853. The son was probably born in London, Charles James in Scotland. The boys came out with their mother Marianne in 1839-40, after their father had been transported for forging stamps. George Raymond jr became a cordial maker in Maitland and then in Sydney (a trade that went back at least to his grandfather James (1770-1827), a surgeon who sold potions for a while before running a lottery house at Cornhill.) George Raymond jr. d. Glebe Jan 30 1893, aged about 68. Plenty more if you're interested. I'd also be very keen to know where your April 21 birthdate for George Raymond comes from. I have no record of his birth.

SourceEmails - Greg Manning
Citation details: 4 August 2008
Text:

I'm not sure what my connection to your family might be -- George Raymond Pidding's younger brother Charles James (1826-1900) was my g2 grandfather. I gather from your site that George Raymond is a peripheral connection in your family, since you've got him a little mixed up. He was born in 1824; it was his father (also George Raymond) who was born in 1800. George Raymond the elder arr 1838, d. 1853. The son was probably born in London, Charles James in Scotland. The boys came out with their mother Marianne in 1839-40, after their father had been transported for forging stamps. George Raymond jr became a cordial maker in Maitland and then in Sydney (a trade that went back at least to his grandfather James (1770-1827), a surgeon who sold potions for a while before running a lottery house at Cornhill.) George Raymond jr. d. Glebe Jan 30 1893, aged about 68. Plenty more if you're interested. I'd also be very keen to know where your April 21 birthdate for George Raymond comes from. I have no record of his birth.