Mid North Coast Pioneers - Newcastle to Lismore and beyond

Mary TIDYMAN1789

Name
Mary TIDYMAN
Given names
Mary
Surname
TIDYMAN
Also known as
Mary TOWERS
Married name
Mary NICHOLSON
Married name
Mary SEWELL
Publication: Newcastle, NSW, 1880, NSW Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages, 2003
Birthyes

Christening 21 January 1789
Publication: Narrawallee, NSW, Australia; Phil and Jan Gregory; Mar 2007; ISBN 978-0-9750011-2-7
Citation details: Pedigree of Sarah Nicholson
Quality of data: primary evidence
Religious marriageDennis NICHOLSONView this family
13 November 1811 (Age 22)
Address: St. Bees Parish
Publication: Self published by Jan and Phil Gregory in 2007.
Citation details: Page 1
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Publication: Narrawallee, NSW, Australia; Phil and Jan Gregory; Mar 2007; ISBN 978-0-9750011-2-7
Citation details: Pedigree of Sarah Nicholson
Birth of a daughter
#1
Sarah NICHOLSON
30 October 1812 (Age 23)
Publication: Newcastle, NSW, 1880, NSW Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages, 2003
Citation details: Email from Jan Gregory 15/3/2005
Text:

Display all headers From: Jan Gregory jancgr@bigpond.net.au Subject: Re: William Greaves Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:38:53 +1100 To: "Stuart Gregory" stuart@scss.com.au

Thanks, Stuart,

First, my sister told me she didn't like my answering by inserting - to write an entire email. (That's in discussion about our Mother who is rapidly going downhill.) However, I find it easy to insert, change colour and thus refer to specific comments.

On 15/03/2005, at 12:14 AM, Stuart Gregory wrote:

With regard to William and Sarah, you write as though you have not seen the certificate of marriage (transcribed).

No, I hadn't seen the transcription. I have the actual copy from the register. Word is clearly widower next to William. The next one certainly has a "drag line" after the last w in widow but isn't clearly widower.

The handwritten Alex has a scrawl next to it which could be a shortened form of the name Alexander.

You also write about Sarah arriving by ship under the name Nicholson. I am not aware of any information about how or when she arrived; whether she was a free settler or a convict. All I know is what is contained in her Death Certificate, a copy of which I have attached for your information. Actual year probably not known by John, the informant.Based on this certificate she would have arrived in Australia around 1834.

Shipping reel 1286

Sarah arrived 31 Oct 1837 on "Andromache". age 25 b 30 Oct 1812 Egremont Parish, Cumberland

house servant, Episcopalian

Protection of James BELSHER and family

(He was 30, - farmer from Comber Down, Nthn Ireland, + wife, Mary 27 + 4 chn.)

Ian Gregory puts her as being under the protection of Rev William Sowerby. He was on the ship but I wrote the above. Hence I've asked Philip to check this reel.

If our William Gregory is not William Greaves, then how did our William come to Australia and when?

This is the task: I believe we have two definite facts. Marriage in Manchester on 30 March 1828 then possible bits. Next fact is marriage in Sydney 20 August 1838.

Shipping records could be read in case William came as a ship's carpenter. He might have come steerage and we'll never find it if the ship's logger merely wrote "and 43 steerage passengers". He might have come, as William b 1839 stated as informant at death, "64 years" from 1893. To read the records requires lots of time. One day ....

At the birth of your William in 1839, the abode was Fort St which is near Harbour Bridge.

To muddy the waters a little bit more, it is my understanding that a William Greaves (Grieve) of the Lloyds applied to marry a free settler in 1845 in Parramatta. This was around the time the second child Eliza was born of the William Greaves you have researched. Are there two William Greaves? Not to the extent of confusing the issue. Was there a Willeam Greaves and a William Grieve both transported on the Lloyds? Maybe they arrived at different times?

NSW/Vic/Tas/WA - 433 matches for all BMDs for GREAVES 1788 - 1888

modified to NSW - 140 matches

modified to NSW + William - 8 matches

Only relevant - marriage 1841, birth William J 1843, death 1875

William GRIEVES in NSW - 4 records

William GRIEVE in NSW - 10 records one being William GRIEVE = Ann NOWLAN Parramatta Presbyterian in 1845.

I don't know when the above William GRIEVE arrived.

Perhaps we need to get this certificate: V1841542 25C/1841 GREAVES WILLIAM CONOLLY SUSAN CT

I copied this from register yesterday. That's what I was quoting. However, the copy is poor. I told Philip last night that it would have to be redone if needed for the book. In this morning's light, after Maitland, it could be Bond T of L.

Also, as a bit of background and an aside, I attach a photo each of William and Ann's grave and William and Sarah's grave both at Sandgate cemetery, Newcastle.

Obviously some work is needed here on a working bee!!! Thanks for these!

Best wishes,

Jan

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Birth of a daughter
#2
Frances NICHOLSON
yes

Publication: Copyright (c) 1980, 2002
Christening of a daughterSarah NICHOLSON
3 November 1812 (Age 23)
Citation details: Email of 16 Aug 2005
Text:

Dear Stuart, I have the family info and I don't know why Sarah doesn't show. Here is her individual entry. I've used the IGI plus Whitehaven Record Office to go back a few generations from Dennis and Mary. I've also gone the other way and traced Sarah's siblings and their chn. Should have written to one I found but haven't got "round tuit". I actually haven't been able to unzip but I'll ask son, David in the morning and email if I can't. Thanks for sending files. Sarah was baptised in Egremont Church. We attended a morning service there. However, the actually building isn't the one in which she would have gone. The one there now was built, from memory in abt 1870. We then went to St Bees Church which is the actual building in which Dennis Nicholson was baptised in 1789. Regards, Jan IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Pedigree

SARAH NICHOLSON Female Event(s): Birth: 30 OCT 1812 Christening: 03 NOV 1812 Egremont, Cumberland, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: DENNIS NICHOLSON Family Mother: MARY

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Publication: Narrawallee, NSW, Australia; Phil and Jan Gregory; Mar 2007; ISBN 978-0-9750011-2-7
Citation details: Page 9
Birth of a daughter
#3
Agnes NICHOLSON
22 January 1815 (Age 26)
Publication: Copyright (c) 1980, 2002
Birth of a son
#4
John NICHOLSON
11 May 1817 (Age 28)
Publication: Copyright (c) 1980, 2002
Birth of a daughter
#5
Eleanor NICHOLSON
23 October 1819 (Age 30)
Publication: Copyright (c) 1980, 2002
Birth of a daughter
#6
Mary NICHOLSON
23 January 1822 (Age 33)
Publication: Copyright (c) 1980, 2002
Birth of a daughter
#7
Elizabeth NICHOLSON
23 March 1824 (Age 35)
Publication: Copyright (c) 1980, 2002
Birth of a son
#8
James NICHOLSON
23 July 1826 (Age 37)
Publication: Copyright (c) 1980, 2002
Christening of a daughterFrances NICHOLSON
21 June 1829 (Age 40)
Death of a husbandDennis NICHOLSON
5 September 1830 (Age 41)
Publication: Narrawallee, NSW, Australia; Phil and Jan Gregory; Mar 2007; ISBN 978-0-9750011-2-7
Citation details: Pedigree of Sarah Nicholson
Publication: Copyright (c) 1980, 2002
Note: The IGI has his death date as 7 September 1830.
MarriageJoseph SEWELLView this family
4 September 1831 (Age 42)
Marriage of a childWilliam GREGORYSarah NICHOLSONView this family
Type: Religious marriage
20 August 1838 (Age 49)
Address: St. Philip's Cnr York, Jamison and Clarence Streets
Citation details: 1601 Vol:22
Quality of data: 4
Gregory-Nicholson
Gregory-Nicholson

Note: This is a transcription of the church parish register.

Note: Witnesses to the marriage were Alex and Ann Anderson.

Gregory-Nicholson
Gregory-Nicholson

Note: This is a transcription of the church parish register.

Birth of a grandson
#1
William ‘Bill’ GREGORY
24 September 1839 (Age 50)
Publication: Issued in Sydney on 6 Feb 2003
Citation details: 228 Vol 23a
Quality of data: 4
Citation details: V1839228 23A/1839 GREGORY WILLIAM WILLIAM SARAH
Quality of data: primary evidence
Publication: NSW Registrar General
Christening of a grandsonWilliam ‘Bill’ GREGORY
20 October 1839 (Age 50)
Address: St. Phillip's
Publication: Issued in Sydney on 6 Feb 2003
Note: William was christened by the Venerable William Cowper in the old church which lasted from 1798 to 1856. This church was built on what is now Lang Park opposite the current church. Rev. William Cowper laid the foundation stone for the exis ting church on 1 May, 1848.
Gregory-William-1839
Gregory-William-1839

Note: Image of the entry in the Baptism Register of St. Philips Church, Sydney. William was born 24 Sep 1839 and baptised on 20 Oct 1839.


Gregory-William-1839
Gregory-William-1839

Note: Gregory-William Baptism Certificate Born 24/9/1839 Baptised 20/10/1839.

Birth of a grandson
#2
John George Charles GREGORY
10 February 1843 (Age 54)
Citation details: V18432529 28/1843 GREGORY JOHN G WILLIAM SARAH
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Publication: Email from Jan Gregory to Stuart Gregory of 15 July, 2005
Citation details: Page 20
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Baptism of a grandsonJohn George Charles GREGORY
26 May 1844 (Age 55)
Gregory-JohnGeorge
Gregory-JohnGeorge

Note: Baptism Register 1844. John George GREGORY born 10 Feb 1843 and baptised on 26 May 1844.

Birth of a granddaughter
#3
Elizabeth GREGORY
28 March 1845 (Age 56)
Citation details: V18452710 30A/1845 GREGORY ELIZABETH WILLIAM SARAH
Quality of data: questionable evidence
Birth of a granddaughter
#4
Mary Ann GREGORY
14 February 1848 (Age 59)
Citation details: V18481119 55/1848 GREGORY MARY A WILLIAM SARAH
Quality of data: questionable evidence
Christening of a granddaughterMary Ann GREGORY
4 May 1848 (Age 59)
Gregory-Mary Ann
Gregory-Mary Ann

Note: Baptism Register, 1848, Morpeth - Mary Ann GREGORY. Born 14 Feb 1848 and baptised on 4 May 1848.

Marriage of a childJohn C FARQUHARSONElizabeth NICHOLSONView this family
8 June 1850 (Age 61)
Birth of a grandson
#5
John FARQUHARSON
about 1851 (Age 61)
Birth of a grandson
#6
James GREGORY
1 January 1852 (Age 62)
Citation details: V18522879 38A/1852 GREGORY JAMES WILLIAM SARAH
Quality of data: questionable evidence
Christening of a grandsonJames GREGORY
2 May 1852 (Age 63)
Gregory-James
Gregory-James

Note: The entry for the baptism of James Gregory

Birth of a grandson
#7
Francis FARQUHARSON
about 1853 (Age 63)
Birth of a grandson
#8
Joseph GREGORY
5 November 1859 (Age 70)
Address: Lake Macquarie Road
Citation details: 10497/1859 GREGORY JOSEPH WILLIAM SARAH
Quality of data: questionable evidence
Note: In 1859, when Joseph was born, William and family were living at this address.

Birth of a granddaughter
#9
Elizabeth FARQUHARSON
about 1861 (Age 71)
Marriage of a grandchildWilliam ‘Bill’ GREGORYAnn Aggett FEWINSView this family
30 October 1861 (Age 72)
Citation details: 2487/1861 GREGORY WILLIAM FEWINS ANN AGGETT
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Publication: NSW Registrar General
Marriage of a grandchildJohn George Charles GREGORYWinifred WILLIAMSView this family
20 October 1864 (Age 75)
Citation details: 2659/1864 GREGORY JOHN GEORGE WILLIAMS WINIFRED NEWCASTLE
Quality of data: questionable evidence
Birth of a grandson
#10
David FARQUHARSON
about 1865 (Age 75)
Marriage of a grandchildJames HOOKWAYElizabeth GREGORYView this family
24 February 1865 (Age 76)
Publication: Narrawallee, NSW, Australia; Phil and Jan Gregory; Mar 2007; ISBN 978-0-9750011-2-7
Citation details: Descendants of Elizabeth Gregory Page 1
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Publication: Email from Jan Gregory to Stuart Gregory of 15 July, 2005
Citation details: Email - Jan Gregory 18 June, 2006.
Quality of data: questionable evidence
Citation details: 2708/1865 HOOKNAY JAMES GREGORY ELIZABETH NEWCASTLE
Note: Bible has 24 Feb 1865 for marriage. 23 March given by Vicki Gow. Sheet has 23 Feb.
Marriage of a grandchildWalter ‘Watty’ WILLIAMSONMary Ann GREGORYView this family
Type: Religious marriage
10 October 1866 (Age 77)
Address: Primitive Methodist Church
Citation details: 2706/1866 WILLIAMSON WALTER GREGORY MARY A NEWCASTLE
Publication: Email from Jan Gregory to Stuart Gregory of 15 July, 2005
Publication: Narrawallee, NSW, Australia; Phil and Jan Gregory; Mar 2007; ISBN 978-0-9750011-2-7
Citation details: Page 79
Birth of a grandson
#11
Joseph T FARQUHARSON
about 1867 (Age 77)
Marriage of a grandchildJames GREGORYMary Ann HUDSONView this family
Type: Religious marriage
28 May 1874 (Age 85)
Address: St. John's Anglican Cnr Darby, Parry and Dawson Streets
Citation details: 3270/1874 GREGORY JAMES HUDSON MARY ANN NEWCASTLE
Quality of data: questionable evidence
Publication: Email from Jan Gregory to Stuart Gregory of 15 July, 2005
Marriage of a grandchildFrancis FARQUHARSONMary SHIPPINView this family
about 1876 (Age 86)
Death of a daughterSarah NICHOLSON
11 February 1880 (Age 91)
Cause: Epithelial cancer of the face
Publication: Newcastle, NSW, 1880, NSW Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages, 2003
Citation details: 1880/008468
Quality of data: primary evidence
Gregory (Nicholson)-Sarah
Gregory (Nicholson)-Sarah

Note: Death Certificate of Sarah GREGORY (NICHOLSON) who died on 11 Feb 1880 at The Junction, NSW.

Burial of a daughterSarah NICHOLSON
12 February 1880 (Age 91)
Address: Newcastle, NSW Australia
Publication: Newcastle, NSW, 1880, NSW Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages, 2003
Marriage of a grandchildJoseph GREGORYMary Scott JOWETTView this family
Type: Religious marriage
27 December 1882 (Age 93)
Address: St. Andrew's Anglican Cathedral Sydney NSW
Citation details: 1918/1882 GREGORY JOSEPH JOWETT MARY SCOTT SYDNEY
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Publication: Email from Jan Gregory to Stuart Gregory of 15 July, 2005
Publication: Narrawallee, NSW, Australia; Phil and Jan Gregory; Mar 2007; ISBN 978-0-9750011-2-7
Citation details: Page 100
Marriage of a grandchildJohn George Charles GREGORYEmma Toye EDWARDSView this family
about 1890 (Age 100)
Citation details: 4862/1890 GREGORY JOHN G EDWARDS EMMA MEREWETHER
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Publication: Email from Jan Gregory to Stuart Gregory of 15 July, 2005
Citation details: Page 20
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Deathyes

Family with parents - View this family
father
mother
Marriage: 3 June 1784St. Bees, Cumberland, England, United Kingdom
5 years
herself
Family with Dennis NICHOLSON - View this family
husband
herself
Marriage: 13 November 1811Egremont, Cumberland, England, United Kingdom
1 year
daughter
2 years
daughter
2 years
son
2 years
daughter
2 years
daughter
2 years
daughter
2 years
son
3 years
daughter
Family with Joseph SEWELL - View this family
husband
herself
Marriage: 4 September 1831Egremont, Cumberland, England, United Kingdom

ChristeningThe Newcastle Connection: A Gregory Family History
Publication: Narrawallee, NSW, Australia; Phil and Jan Gregory; Mar 2007; ISBN 978-0-9750011-2-7
Citation details: Pedigree of Sarah Nicholson
Quality of data: primary evidence
MarriageThe Mystery of William Gregory
Publication: Self published by Jan and Phil Gregory in 2007.
Citation details: Page 1
Quality of data: secondary evidence
MarriageThe Newcastle Connection: A Gregory Family History
Publication: Narrawallee, NSW, Australia; Phil and Jan Gregory; Mar 2007; ISBN 978-0-9750011-2-7
Citation details: Pedigree of Sarah Nicholson
NameDeath Certificate - Sarah Gregory (Nicholson)
Publication: Newcastle, NSW, 1880, NSW Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages, 2003